Red-flowered King of the Fairies at The Gap, NSW
Identification history
| Oberonia titania | 20 Jan 2024 | Tapirlord | ||
| Oberonia palmicola | 15 Nov 2023 | natureguy | ||
| Oberonia titania | 15 Nov 2023 | poszum |
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Significant sighting
Tapirlord noted:
20 Jan 2024
Nationally threatened, primarily by collection. All sightings are of interest
9 comments
Tapirlord
wrote:
15 Nov 2023
Oberonia palmicola I believe. i think O.titania is endemic to lord howe?
poszum
wrote:
15 Nov 2023
Hi this is a confirmed species here
See distribution map and description: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/threatenedspeciesapp/profile.aspx?id=10571
See distribution map and description: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/threatenedspeciesapp/profile.aspx?id=10571
Tapirlord
wrote:
15 Nov 2023
Yes, I am aware of that. But, the taxonomic situation is more complex. Copeland and Backhouse use O.palmicola in there book on NSW orchids (published 2022), which I think suggests that the name will superseed O.titania on mainland Australia. O.titania is endemic to Norfolk island (not Lord Howe as I had thought) using this intrepretation.
poszum
wrote:
16 Nov 2023
Thanks Tapirlord, I wasnt aware of that. It was a species that was uploaded on NSW Native Plant ID facebook recently and O. titania was identified by Copeland.
poszum
wrote:
20 Jan 2024
I think before it has been officially re named it is dangerous to identify known threatened species in their 'soon to be names' potentially??
Tapirlord
wrote:
20 Jan 2024
So first off, my apologies for leaving this one so late! It had slipped my mind. Having thought about it some more, I think I am going to tend toward a conservative approach with orchid taxonomy on Naturemapr, which means we will maintain the older name here. Just so you are aware, the spilt would trigger a reassement under the EPBC act if it was accepted by NSW. However, given that the listing also applies to mainland plants as it stands, I see no reason why using the name Oberonia palmicola is dangerous. They are simply synonyms.
Anyhow, Oberonia titania it is. A fantastic record, well done!
Anyhow, Oberonia titania it is. A fantastic record, well done!
poszum
wrote:
20 Jan 2024
Thanks for your time - I appreciate it and all of your work to ID species!!
'Dangerous' is not the right word to use. I just wondered if a development assessment was undertaken prior to it being renamed officially it would not come up as a potential threatened species to consider on a site - and being a species that is dormant in Winter too....field assessments may not pick it up. But I do not know how the logistics of a reassessment or renaming works - but if they are synonyms I think I am starting to understand. Once again - thanks for your time.
'Dangerous' is not the right word to use. I just wondered if a development assessment was undertaken prior to it being renamed officially it would not come up as a potential threatened species to consider on a site - and being a species that is dormant in Winter too....field assessments may not pick it up. But I do not know how the logistics of a reassessment or renaming works - but if they are synonyms I think I am starting to understand. Once again - thanks for your time.
Location information
- Places The Gap, NSW
Sighting information
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Significant NSW Government Priority Species Plants Orchids poszum New South Wales North Coast NatureMapr
Species information
- Oberonia titania Scientific name
- Red-flowered King of the Fairies Common name
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- Very rare / threatened
- Non-invasive or negligible
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